CPC Review

[fmountford]

Is the Driver CPC scheme in a review stage or is what they have got now final.

Are they planning to make more tweaks and minor changes to it within say a review period.

[ROG]

Is the Driver CPC scheme in a review stage or is what they have got now final.

Are they planning to make more tweaks and minor changes to it within say a review period.
I've not seen any changes mentioned anywhere yet but someone at the EU Parliament will soon get bored and do something more silly with it !!

[fmountford]

A Digression now but what your views on the new CPC?

I note from a number of posts that your not impressed with it.

[flexit]

Too many threads now about the CPC, perhaps they should all be merged into one!

[alan mcculloch]

I regard the CPC as yet another stealth tax.I have met so many older drivers who swear point blank that they will hang up the keys.If a man has been in the job for more than 20 years its insulting to say that he requires training.Then there is the quality and relevance of said training.!:censored:

[ROG]

A Digression now but what your views on the new CPC?

I note from a number of posts that your not impressed with it.

I'm not - at least not in it's present form

There is no test for one thing so how is anyone to know if a driver has assimilated any of what is being taught and whether they have fully understood it

Why try and teach a driver something they know already - an assessment should be made before teaching someone anything to see if they need to be taught.

As for the initial Dcpc - they did not introduce a specific drivers hours etc module which I would think is something that ALL newbies would need - hmmm we have EU driver regs but lets not teach newbies in the new EU initial dcpc ........... you could not make it up !!

[fmountford]

Having a career in IT at the moment it is very important that we undertake continual professional development (CPD) as the industry and technology is changing rapidly.

In the road transport industry it doesnt change as much, ie driving nowadays isnt much different to driving 30 years ago, infact its probably easier with the advancment of easier to drive buses.

Im all for CPD and i hope that CPC helps to get better value out of the business and change some employees that give the rest of you a bad time and a bad name.

I think rather than complelling people to do it they should have started off my making the courses optional but with a reward, in some way for taking them.

[ROG]

What is the one thing that coach/bus drivers do most in a shift? - oh, yes. it's driving - no driving assessments or training in the Dcpc - how daft is that !!

[fmountford]

What is the one thing that coach/bus drivers do most in a shift? - oh, yes. it's driving - no driving assessments or training in the Dcpc - how daft is that !!

Im sorry if a driver thinks that all they do is drive then i dont think they should be in a job.

What about customer care skills making an experience to them a personal one, making conversation and makeing their holiday / travel special.

Loading the bus properly, looking after people property, safety of loading and manual handling.

Plus loads of other things.

Ok, lots of people have lots of experience in the industry and do a good job well but theres a saying that "You dont know what you dont know" and for younger people trying to get into the industry then they know that they are going to be trained properly.

[alan mcculloch]

I have met drivers who have done some of their C.P.C. and they are raging and fuming about silly wee lassie trainers who dont have enough knowledge and cant dre buses themselves. HOW CAN A person like that deliver quality or meaningful training.I think that the trainers should have to have held senior positions in the industry as well as being experienced drivers.

[ROG]

One of the most common mistakes made by some of these Dcpc trainers is with the RT(WTD)R when they state that a 30 min break must be taken when 6 hours of WORK (driving +other work) is reached !!

If they don't know the regs then why are they teaching them ??

The body tasked with all this by the DSA is JAUPT and they have no idea as to the validity of the course content !!


As for driving - that is the main part of the drivers job - all the rest is secondary - surely having safe drviers should be the main priority and it is that aspect which should be assessed & addressed if necessary before anything else ??

[fmountford]

As for driving - that is the main part of the drivers job - all the rest is secondary - surely having safe drviers should be the main priority and it is that aspect which should be assessed & addressed if necessary before anything else ??

Thats right, which is the order it all happens in now, you cant send out an unsafe driver.